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23c3 :: the European Hacker Conference :: Call for Participation

Contributed by mbalmer on from the geh-du-mal-duschen-ich-mach-schon-mal-kaffee dept.

Stephan Schmieder, ssc@unixgu.ru, points us at 23C3:

The 23rd Chaos Communication Congress (23C3) is the annual four-day conference of the Chaos Computer Club (CCC) on technology, society and utopia. The Congress offers lectures and workshops on a multitude of topics and encourages a critical-creative attitude towards technology. Since 1984, the Congress has established itself as the "European Hacker Conference" bringing together the brightest heads from Europe and all over the world.

We want you to join and be a part of this unique event which serves as a public platform for cross-culture inspiration and borderless networking. 23C3 is fun!

For more information, please visit http://events.ccc.de/congress/2006/

There will be the usual OpenBSD/OpenSSH booth run by Wim. Quite some of the European OpenBSD developers will be present.

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Comments
  1. By Anonymous Coward (87.78.90.188) on

    Any interesting talks planned already?
    Has Wim requested help, yet?

    Comments
    1. By Anonymous Coward (87.78.90.188) on

      > Any interesting talks planned already?

      Submit your own and/or get your ass over there...

      > Has Wim requested help, yet?

      Mail him and ask directly...

      (soz)

    2. By Wim (213.41.185.88) wim@kd85.com on http://www.openbsd.org/events.html

      > Has Wim requested help, yet?

      If you want to keep track what the places to be are, check with http://www.openbsd.org/events.html

      You'll find a list of recommended events where we will be present, boothslaves are always welcome.

      More important than that, we really encourage people to talk, there are so many topics from a sysadmin and users perspective that have not been covered by developers.

      Even though this is the coolest security event in 2006 (wel, let's not forget http://www.opencon.org), it leaves enough room for topics like impact on society of computers. Your talk does not need to be technical.

      I have yet to see a talk about how to deal with spam. Or ddos.

      Anybody?

      Comments
      1. By Nate (65.95.240.81) on

        For a DDOS, you really only have one option if it's a real big one - contact your upstream and request a block of the traffic going to the target, that and notify the ISPs that use the attacking IPs.

        A watchful ISP should notice traffic spikes and try to stop these kinds of attacks.

        Comments
        1. By wim (194.78.167.231) wim@kd85.com on https://kd85.com/notforsale.html

          > For a DDOS, you really only have one option if it's a real big one - contact your upstream and request a block of the traffic going to the target, that and notify the ISPs that use the attacking IPs.
          >
          > A watchful ISP should notice traffic spikes and try to stop these kinds of attacks.

          Like duh and none of the gambling and credit card clearing sites have been using OpenBSD in the past to save their ass...

          Comments
          1. By Anonymous Coward (70.27.15.123) on

            > > For a DDOS, you really only have one option if it's a real big one - contact your upstream and request a block of the traffic going to the target, that and notify the ISPs that use the attacking IPs.
            > >
            > > A watchful ISP should notice traffic spikes and try to stop these kinds of attacks.
            >
            > Like duh and none of the gambling and credit card clearing sites have been using OpenBSD in the past to save their ass...

            What are you talking about? OpenBSD has added magic packet fairies that wander upstream and eat bad packets before they can fill your pipe? You can't protect yourself against a DDoS with openbsd, you need to either have enough bandwidth to handle it, or get your ISP to block it.

            Comments
            1. By Mike (130.49.131.29) on

              > What are you talking about? OpenBSD has added magic packet fairies that wander upstream and eat bad packets before they can fill your pipe? You can't protect yourself against a DDoS with openbsd, you need to either have enough bandwidth to handle it, or get your ISP to block it.



              What if you are the upstream ISP, and you run OpenBSD. You could use it to protect your customers from a DDoS.

              Comments
              1. By Anonymous Coward (70.27.15.123) on

                > > What are you talking about? OpenBSD has added magic packet fairies that wander upstream and eat bad packets before they can fill your pipe? You can't protect yourself against a DDoS with openbsd, you need to either have enough bandwidth to handle it, or get your ISP to block it.
                >
                >
                >
                > What if you are the upstream ISP, and you run OpenBSD. You could use it to protect your customers from a DDoS.

                Just like you could use any other packet filter. The topic "how to deal with ddos" is not worth a talk at all, nevermind an openbsd specific one, when all that changes from platform to platform is the firewall syntax.

  2. By Dunceor (192.16.134.66) dunceor@gmail.com on

    I have always wanted to go but the date is so bad, just between christmas and new years eve. It would be better to just have it on some random weekend in nov-dec-jan than have it during the holidays.

    I'll just have to wait until CCC Camp next year insteed.

    Comments
    1. By Anonymous Coward (134.106.146.206) fkr@grummel.net on

      > I have always wanted to go but the date is so bad, just between christmas and new years eve. It would be better to just have it on some random weekend in nov-dec-jan than have it during the holidays.

      no, the date is perfect. Its the only conference in the year, where I can be sure, that work will not require me with urgent stuff. :)

      Comments
      1. By Anonymous Coward (88.139.183.79) on

        CCC camp will be cool :)
        any date ?

        Comments
        1. By Anonymous Coward (87.78.90.247) on

          > CCC camp will be cool :)
          > any date ?

          possibly again at the end of july/beginning of august.
          date will be set aprox at the time of 23c3.

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          1. By Anonymous Coward (81.56.211.110) on

            > > CCC camp will be cool :)
            > > any date ?
            >
            > possibly again at the end of july/beginning of august.
            > date will be set aprox at the time of 23c3.

            thanks

  3. By Anonymous Coward (82.231.136.192) on

    I can't understand that the ccc has a good reputation being a group with some really smart brains and a horde of brainfucked "look I'm cool, I'm CCC" script kiddies. Flame!

    Comments
    1. By Anonymous Coward (87.78.90.247) on

      > I can't understand that the ccc has a good reputation being a group with some really smart brains and a horde of brainfucked "look I'm cool, I'm CCC" script kiddies. Flame!

      Every open group has its mixed audience. (No, i'll resist pointing to misc@)
      With a gain in popularity you'll get something of everything.
      I even think that there are still some people in the linux com that "get it".

      Comments
      1. By Anonymous Coward (86.204.252.187) on

        Linux ? Never heard of it.

        Comments
        1. By Anonymous Coward (202.6.138.34) on

          > Linux ? Never heard of it.
          Its an alternative Operating System; like Windows.

          Comments
          1. By Anonymous Coward (86.213.170.43) on

            > > Linux ? Never heard of it.
            > Its an alternative Operating System; like Windows.
            >

            er... I think this was a joke...

            Comments
            1. By Anonymous Coward (213.113.152.27) on

              > > > Linux ? Never heard of it.
              > > Its an alternative Operating System; like Windows.
              > >
              >
              > er... I think this was a joke...

              er.. I think that was a joke.

  4. By Thorsten Glaser (213.196.246.87) on http://mirbsd.de/mksh

    Hm, isn't it more the galactic hacker conference?

    The other BSDs will be there of course too.

    Nice "dept." - showering is always a good suggestion
    for these conferences, and coffee a must.

  5. By Anonymous Coward (89.48.48.73) on

    Are "hacker" conferences even worth going to? How much smarter are
    they really going to make you? Also consider a "hacker" conference
    in a nations capital. Hmmm. Anyhow if all you want is buy some
    OpenBSD merchandise from Wim you may as well travel to Belgium on
    a day he isn't at some venue peddling his wares.

    Comments
    1. By Wim (194.78.167.231) wim@kd85.com on https://kd85.com/notforsale.html

      > Are "hacker" conferences even worth going to? How much smarter are
      > they really going to make you? Also consider a "hacker" conference
      > in a nations capital. Hmmm. Anyhow if all you want is buy some
      > OpenBSD merchandise from Wim you may as well travel to Belgium on
      > a day he isn't at some venue peddling his wares.

      The whole point of setting up a small OpenBSD embassy at events like this is to offer a safe haven of sanity to our users and show to others what is possible with OpenBSD. It's a social event that enables people to interact. And get a few drinks too, of course.

      Comments
      1. By Anonymous Coward (89.48.45.138) on

        > > Are "hacker" conferences even worth going to? How much smarter are
        > > they really going to make you? Also consider a "hacker" conference
        > > in a nations capital. Hmmm. Anyhow if all you want is buy some
        > > OpenBSD merchandise from Wim you may as well travel to Belgium on
        > > a day he isn't at some venue peddling his wares.
        >
        > The whole point of setting up a small OpenBSD embassy at events like this is to offer a safe haven of sanity to our users and show to others what is possible with OpenBSD. It's a social event that enables people to interact. And get a few drinks too, of course.

        Are you saying that people are at risk and that they are in need of a safe haven at such venues?

        Comments
        1. By Anonymous Coward (198.208.251.24) on

          > > > Are "hacker" conferences even worth going to? How much smarter are
          > > > they really going to make you? Also consider a "hacker" conference
          > > > in a nations capital. Hmmm. Anyhow if all you want is buy some
          > > > OpenBSD merchandise from Wim you may as well travel to Belgium on
          > > > a day he isn't at some venue peddling his wares.
          > >
          > > The whole point of setting up a small OpenBSD embassy at events like this is to offer a safe haven of sanity to our users and show to others what is possible with OpenBSD. It's a social event that enables people to interact. And get a few drinks too, of course.
          >
          > Are you saying that people are at risk and that they are in need of a safe haven at such venues?

          Aparently you havn't had a 'hacker' drag you into his long and interesting story of getting wine to work in linux....

    2. By Anonymous Coward (128.171.90.200) on

      > How much smarter are they really going to make you?

      at least 12

      > Also consider a "hacker" conference in a nations capital.

      is there some reason it would be better to hold it in say, a small rural village ? apart from it bieng a lot nicer of course.

      Comments
      1. By Anonymous Coward (87.78.95.84) on

        > > How much smarter are they really going to make you?
        >
        > at least 12
        >
        > > Also consider a "hacker" conference in a nations capital.
        >
        > is there some reason it would be better to hold it in say, a small rural village ? apart from it bieng a lot nicer of course.

        Nothing beats a multi-gigabit uplink the NOC begs you to fill up.

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