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c2k7 General Hackathon Coming Soon...

Contributed by dwc on from the happy-hacking dept.

The next general Hackathon is just a few weeks away. OpenBSD started the tradition of Hackathons, and they've paid off with tons of code. Expect good things this time, too!

In order to make the most of developers' time, let's make sure they have toys to get working and laptops to hack with. Please read on for Theo's message to misc@…

From:    Theo de Raadt <deraadt@…>
Subject: Hackathon is coming up
Date:    2007-04-27 3:50:18

The annual Calgary hackathon is coming up in a bit less than a month.
As usual, this is a good time to remind people that developers need
toys that they can fix/support, so maybe everyone can take a peek at

	http://www.openbsd.org/want.html

and see if there is anything they should send to us to make the
week-long event better.

If you spot anything you can supply, it is worth while talking to the
developer who asked for it, and to me as well.  It may be better to
send the equipment direct to me, so that the developer does not have
to bring it to Calgary in their suitcases (maybe that means they can
bring a bit more clean underwear).

As always, I want to remind people that this is a good time to get
extra laptops (via me) to developers who live in poorer countries or
who face difficulties with fascist border guards.  If you have any
machines to contribute, drop me a note.  There are always developers
struggling with crappy laptops.

Thanks.

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Comments

  1. By Nate (Nate) Evil on

    Hmmmm, I guess we may see updates to things like cwm, OpenBSD's new default window manager. It'd be pretty nice to see the code cleaned up and the to do list finished off. Maybe then cwm can become the next OpenBSD child project, but then again, maybe not, it really depends on how much the developers like their new window manager.

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    1. By Darrin Chandler (dwc) on http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/

      As always, we can guess what might be worked on. We just have to realize this has no bearing on what actually happens when you get loads of developers together in one place for monster hacking sessions.

      The key benefit of Hackathons, as I see it, is to enable developers to do what they normally do, but in a focused face-to-face environment with other developers and lots of hardware. A set agenda isn't needed, and would probably lead to LESS productivity.

      Just the opinion of a professional developer (without an @openbsd.org email)

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      1. By Anonymous Coward (24.37.242.64) on

        > Just the opinion of a professional developer (without an @openbsd.org email)

        Why not join in too? :)

        Comments

        1. By Darrin Chandler (dwc) on http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/

          > > Just the opinion of a professional developer (without an @openbsd.org email)
          >
          > Why not join in too? :)

          That might be an option when I write some damned code for the project! Until then I'm another happy user. :)

    2. By mls (64.105.167.25) on

      > Hmmmm, I guess we may see updates to things like cwm, OpenBSD's

      Nice! I've been using evilwm since about 2000, so this is definately welcome news.

    3. By Matthias Kilian (91.3.42.45) on

      http://www.xmonad.org/

      Not kidding, since dons@ participated.

      We just have to get GHC into the base system ;-)

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      1. By Anonymous Coward (85.178.65.209) on

        > http://www.xmonad.org/
        >
        > Not kidding, since dons@ participated.
        >
        > We just have to get GHC into the base system ;-)

        Yeah.. lets add another 4hrs of spare time during compiling the base system...

    4. By Brynet (Brynet) on

      Wow, cwm has to be the fugliest Window Manager I've seen to date, How does that even qualify as a Window manager?

      It doesn't even border open X clients.

      That my friend is a 0 on a scale of 1 to 5.

      That shouldn't be the default in my opinion..

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      1. By Anonymous Coward (66.79.234.245) on

        > Wow, cwm has to be the fugliest Window Manager I've seen to date, How does that even qualify as a Window manager?
        >
        > It doesn't even border open X clients.
        >
        > That my friend is a 0 on a scale of 1 to 5.
        >
        > That shouldn't be the default in my opinion..

        Clearly, a Window Manager is defined as: Something that looks good. Not: Something that manages windows. Have you used ratpoison? It's arguably even "fuglier". And yet, it's the best window manager I've ever used, nothing can rival it for speed.

        And of course, if we're arguing based on appearance, I think ratpoison/cwm/similar looks nice enough with a background and transparent terminals.

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        1. By Brynet (Brynet) on

          > Clearly, a Window Manager is defined as: Something that looks good. Not: Something that manages windows. Have you used ratpoison? It's arguably even "fuglier". And yet, it's the best window manager I've ever used, nothing can rival it for speed.
          >
          > And of course, if we're arguing based on appearance, I think ratpoison/cwm/similar looks nice enough with a background and transparent terminals.

          Yeah I know "Technically" it is a Window manager, But I hold onto the "It's fugly" sentiment ;)

        2. By Darrin Chandler (dwc) on http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/

          > Clearly, a Window Manager is defined as: Something that looks good. Not: Something that manages windows. Have you used ratpoison? It's arguably even "fuglier". And yet, it's the best window manager I've ever used, nothing can rival it for speed.
          >
          > And of course, if we're arguing based on appearance, I think ratpoison/cwm/similar looks nice enough with a background and transparent terminals.

          I switched from ratpoison to ion and I'm happier. Not to knock ratpoison (I liked the screen-like key bindings). I don't know which is faster, since they're both so fast on any hardware I've run them on that it's a non-issue.

      2. By Anonymous Coward (85.178.65.209) on

        > Wow, cwm has to be the fugliest Window Manager I've seen to date, How does that even qualify as a Window manager?
        >
        > It doesn't even border open X clients.
        >
        > That my friend is a 0 on a scale of 1 to 5.
        >
        > That shouldn't be the default in my opinion..

        I don`t know if the oBSD team spend "hours" to check the CWM-Code too.
        And I consider x*.tgz as Base-System...

      3. By Anonymous Coward (71.197.194.170) on

        > Wow, cwm has to be the fugliest Window Manager I've seen to date, How does that even qualify as a Window manager?
        >
        > It doesn't even border open X clients.
        >
        > That my friend is a 0 on a scale of 1 to 5.
        >
        > That shouldn't be the default in my opinion..

        So I assume that you never changed it in <= 4.0 from the default FVWM?

        actually I just tried cwm out of curiosity, and it's rather nice. Now if only it supported multiple desktops, I'd stop using Xfce.

    5. By Norbert P. Copones (norbert) on http://www.feu-nrmf.ph/norbert/

      > Hmmmm, I guess we may see updates to things like cwm, OpenBSD's

      this is definitely good! i've been using cwm for a long time. there's a bunch of .calmwm/.keys entries on my homedir just to extend some functionalities i want (e.g. toggle maximize).

    6. By phessler (209.204.157.105) on

      > Hmmmm, I guess we may see updates to things like cwm, OpenBSD's

      bad choice for default. this will only confuse noobs, which can actually deal with fvwm (the window decorations occasionally are useful). although, as long as fvwm is still included in base, I won't be too upset.

      Comments

      1. By Nate (Nate) on

        Why would it matter what the default is to a newbie? Most people, even newbies, just install their port-de-choice anyways.

        Comments

        1. By phessler (209.204.157.105) on

          > Why would it matter what the default is to a newbie? Most people, even newbies, just install their port-de-choice anyways.

          wow. its called 'sane defaults'.

          go read http://www.blahonga.org/~art/rant.html specifically "Defaults, you fucking morons, defaults!" and "Usability."

    7. By Otto Moerbeek (otto) on http://www.drijf.net

      >Hmmmm, I guess we may see updates to things like cwm, OpenBSD's new default window manager.

      What makes you think that? Please refer to a commit that makes it the default. I don't see anything like that.

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      1. By Nate (Nate) on

        I suppose it was just an assumption based on it being imported into the X base.

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        1. By Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse (jasper) on http://humppa.nl

          > I suppose it was just an assumption based on it being imported into the X base.


          well, wm2 was in xbase too, but it wasn't the default wm either ;)

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