Contributed by sean on from the openbsd and pf for fun AND profit dept.
Lok's solution:Put everything in one slim box, using one or two AMD chips to power everything, a custom chip for security and unified software with a point-and-click design for easy setup. Lok uses off-the-shelf parts and OpenBSD, a free version of Unix. The smallest Airlok supports up to 300 concurrent users and costs $3,000 versus $20,000 if a WISP buys all the features separately. A larger Airlok, for 5,000 users, costs $20,000 and does the work of seven devices costing $120,000.The biggest Airlok supports 50,000 users and costs $70,000 versus $500,000 or more for equivalent separate devices.
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By Anonymous Coward (65.190.56.4) on
I am all for openbsd but making these ridiculous claims about these alternative costs are a bit much. I do not doubt it is a nice box, but good lord. Wake me when it's over.
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By Bert (216.175.250.42) thrashbluegrass at antisocial dot com on
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By Erik Carlseen (68.6.193.220) on
This is the actual main reason for many people's complaints that news sources lean too far left or right or whatever - much of the "news" is generated by PR firms, advocacy groups, political parties, etc., given a very thin coat of paint, and slapped on the page.
Some actual work is done on the editorial page, and in the reviews (although there have been some "reviews" done along these lines for things like restaurants - caveat emptor), but by and large you should take most newspaper and magazine stories with an appropriate grain of salt (unless you have a particularly high level of confidence in a specific writer or publication).
Interesting to see something from Daniel Lyons (the writer of this article) that does something other than waste a few columns ranting about how Open Source products are nothing but hippie trash. I usually have to worry about spraining my eyes by rolling them too much when reading his tripe.
By Anonymous Coward (62.227.100.87) on
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By Iain (142.179.199.27) on
Ideas on this are:
1. Get LoK to support the effort in opening up more hardware manufacturers to Open Interface Documentation.
2. If their is a particular hardware configuration they need for their product line. Then have them support a small project to add the Kernel Interfaces to use that hardware configuration. This could be by donation of the hardware and direct funding of a project.
3. Get their product certified. If security then get the product its Common Criteria EAL designation.
4. Donate to the project beyond hardware. Either cash donation or a sub-project donation.
Key is that LoK gets a return on their investment and helps their product line.
IK
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By Anonymous Coward (69.148.111.41) on
OpenBSD.org::"The OpenBSD project produces a FREE, multi-platform 4.4BSD-based UNIX-like operating system."
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By Anonymous Coward (70.20.155.102) on
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By Anonymous Bastard (12.33.195.201) on
Cisco gear is expensive - I personally see no reason to discount the accuracy of these numbers.
As both an OBSD advocate AND cisco engineer, I have to say I would probably stick with the seperate boxes (assuming $$ is not an issue) as I dont like to put all my eggs in one basket. If $$ were an issue, I would certainly look at this product.
It's a shame when someone innovates (or elevates an existing product - namely Obsd) and all people here can do is *attempt* to find fault with it, or more sadly, find fault with a Forbes article. Get a Life.
and for the Anonymous Coward at 62.227.100.87, what are you, the Openbsd project's conscience?
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By phessler (64.173.147.27) on
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By Anonymous Bastard (12.33.195.201) on
thanks for making my point.
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By Chris (24.76.170.207) on
C'mon, the fact that it's posted here is a positive statement in its own right, so people are going to discuss the drawbacks and ask questions.
And as is mentioned time and again on the mailing lists, few corporate interests that use OpenBSD/OpenSSH in their products give much back to the project.
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By Anonymous Coward (80.108.115.184) on
I.e. encourage people/enterprises who do give back - but at least in my opinion you do not have the right to demand anything from firms which don't. Of course you can ask them do give back...
Regards
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By Chris (24.76.170.207) on
By Anonymous Coward (68.40.14.28) on
So is Simon Lok.
Doesn't mean they've donated more than once, but at least donating is on their mind.
By Anonymous Coward (65.190.56.4) on
under the general replacement it is $20,000
in the article an engineer replaced 2 routers est $70,000 with 2 LOK boxes, to do the same thing(I assume same thing means hsrp replacement?).
Since these LOK boxen only have FE/GE interfaces, those are some mighty expensive similar cisco routers. $35000 for 2 ethernet interface cisco router.
To say the least, interesting numbers.
What sort of pps can this LOK server really handle? I'm guessing only a fraction of what a $35000 cisco router could, considering I can build a sup720 with gig for less than $35000.
Again, I am a BIG fan of openbsd, but information like this makes me wonder.
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By Anonymous Bastard (12.33.195.201) on
i can't imagine a "PC" configuration that could come close to a sup720 which supports as many FE/GE ports as a 65xx/75xx might. (but i dont have a great imagination anyway)
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By Michael (163.252.218.94) on
http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20041016061518
--Michael
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