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New 3.4 Shirts, Posters, Too

Contributed by jose on from the swag dept.

Now that 3.4 is heading towards its final stages, new 3.4 t-shirts and 3.4 posters are available for order . Proceeds go to help fund the project, and the money you spend helps keep you warm or just cover up parts of your wall.

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  1. By Noryungi () n o r y u n g i @ y a h o o . c o m on mailto:n o r y u n g i @ y a h o o . c o m


    The artwork and slogan of this one is... er... really political...

    I strongly suspect the entire OpenBSD crew is flipping the finger in the general direction of the DARPA people who recently cut their financial support of the project... =)

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    1. By Nate () on

      Follows suit with previuous shirts though.

      The crypto shirts with the Ben Franklin saying were very much the same way. Not to mention the hackathon shirt.

      Unfortunately, I don't see myself wearing a shirt with a drunken fish on it.

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      1. By Pete () on

        Unfortunately, I don't see myself wearing a shirt with a drunken fish on it.
        My thoughts exactly.

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        1. By Anonymous Coward () on

          Wear it when you go to the bar?

  2. By Anonymous Coward () on

  3. By Anonymous Coward () on

    Am quite offended! The nerve of Theo putting drunken fish on a t-shirt. What kind of message does that send to the youth of the world.

    OpenBSD is so easy to admin you can do it while you're drunk. Not me I tell ya!

    Good work guys can't wait to get the new artwork and my bright shiny c.d.'s


    Regards-

  4. By Anonymous Coward () on

    Wow, gentlemen. Who are the trolls now?

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    1. By Gimlet () on

      Heck I dunno. See who turns into stone when the sun comes up...

  5. By Anonymous Coward () on

    What is the purpose of having Theo's ignorant anti-military propoganda on the shirts and posters?
    (yes, ignorant and not stupid in this case, as I'm sure Theo hasn't spent years studying the factors involved in the current world situation as those who have a right to blabber their opinion on the subject have)

    Give us a break Theo; if there are two things you know nothing about, it's security and foreign policy.

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    1. By Anonymous Coward () on

      Thanks for the lame troll that shows both your inherent stupidity and your obivious ignorance of OBSD. As far as I know, Canada does not require licenses to express an opinion. I am very well trained in foreign policy and international conflict studies (on my way to a Masters in Pol Sci b4 I got a sysadmin gig) and I have never thought that my credentials give me a right over anyone else to express an opinion.

      And when you can find a free OS with a better security record, then maybe your little crack will hold more water.

      Give me a break, if there are two things you know nothing about, it's your a$$ and a hole in the ground!

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      1. By Anonymous Coward () on

        Classy.

        You can spout off whatever opinion you like, however if you know nothing about the subject you are blabbering about (as is Theo's case, I was not talking about you, though I wouldn't be surprised if your university shared the same ignorant leftist beliefs as Theo does), you should 1) shut up and certainly 2) do not put your ignorant beliefs on tshirts and posters that have nothing to do with your stupidity.

        It's a power play for Theo, just like celebrities.

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        1. By Anonymous Coward () on

          Ah. so we get to the the core of it. You're a pro-Bush shill who trolls anyone who will express an opinion contrary to the flag-waving, neocon jingoism that has been shoved down our throats. All you can do is call everyone ignorant but can't give any reasons why (other than we're all "leftists"). That remark just paints you as another dimwitted neofascist stooge who can't come up with any plausable arguments that they didn't hear Bill O'Reilly say first.

          And being asked by you to "shut up" will have as much effect on me as your troll will on dissuading anyone from using OpenBSD. Just how did your fabulous intellect come up with Theo's comments being a "power play"? He lost a grant over that. Doesn't sound like any "power" was gained there.

          And funny enough, a good friend of mine makes t-shirts and has made a killing with anti-war and anti-Bush slogans. He gets hate mail from shills like you, but he keeps selling more and more.

      2. By majestic1 () on

        He can have all the opinions he wants. But do they really need to be dragged into the OpenBSD project? I don't believe so. I for one don't put political statements into my projects, if I did, I'd be fired.

        Theo continually tarnishes his own project. He may think he's a rebel or maybe he just doesn't give a shit. Either way I think it hurts the OBSD community.

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        1. By Anonymous Coward () on

          I for one don't put political statements into my projects, if I did, I'd be fired.

          That's because you're not the boss of your project. Theo on the other hand, is the boss of the OpenBSD project.

        2. By Krunch () on http://krunch.servebeer.com/~krunch/

          What's the problem ? You can use the software without having to deal with political point of view of the developers. The political statements are on the t-shirts and posters, not in the code (well I didn't checked but I hope nobody wrote some mass_desctruction() function or something).

        3. By Anonymous Coward () on

          What you thumbsuckers don't get is maybe some people believe that a free future depends on, among other things, a Freely Redistributable Secure OS.

        4. By Anthony () on

          Theo didn't drag this into the project, DARPA did when they pulled the funding. All Theo did was express his *personal* opinions in an interview, something he has every right to do.

          DARPA was sending the very political message that you can disagree with them only if you keep your mouth shut in public, or you don't get funding. If they'd said that to me, I probably would have said "Fuck that." as well, though I'm not sure I would have been quite so eloquent.

    2. By tedu () on

      i admit, i'm not an export on international law. however, i've heard rumors that if you don't like the tshirts or posters, you won't be forced to buy them. like i said, i can't be sure, but it looks like there may be a way for you to get out of having to wear a tshirt you don't like.

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      1. By Anonymous Coward () on

        > i'm not an export

        Heh. I'll bet you use a Dvorak keyboard...

      2. By RC () on

        > i'm not an export

        Heh. I'll bet you use a Dvorak keyboard...

    3. By Ex US weapons engineer / Ex US weapons engineer / () on

      The US government have murdered countless innocent civilians on almost every continent, in the name of "freedom" and "democracy" but to attain political weight, strategical position or resources for money.

      Nobody needs to spend years studying US foreign policy to see that the the US government is in fact, actually far far worse than Nazi Germany.

      And all the while the US has extremely biased and controlled media. I HAVE SEEN, journalists being asked to leave government media conferences and then escorted out, because they asked some difficult questions. That is not freedom on the press.

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      1. By chill () on

        I didn't think I'd ever see Deadly.org degenerate to the status of a newsgroup flamewar...

        Time to kill the thread.

        http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/faqs/godwin.html

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        1. By Nate () on

          The problem is that it is damnably close to true in some areas of the US status quo.

          Though the United States as a whole is not a bad thing, it tends to play the roll of 'King of the Hill' (at times called the 'Alpha' or even 'Lord of the Rings' in even dorkier circles). The King of the Hill is the biggest and therefore can do as it pleases, and nobody can do anything to stop them.

          They've done this since World War 2, there were two at one point and the Cold War ensued.

          Is North Korea an axis of evil? Is China, Cuba, Syria or Libya? They sure aren't centres of purity and hope, but they're not out to destroy all the other nations of the world. However they do stand against the King.

          Of course, that's likely just me.

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          1. By Anonymous Coward () on

            > Though the United States as a whole is not a bad thing, it tends to play the roll of 'King of the Hill'

            The US does not normally throw it's weight around like has been happening recently. Up until George Bush Jr. took office, the US had never made an unprovoked attack on a country. Korea was a UN endeavor, and in Vietnam, it was believed that a US ship was fired upon. The Iraq/Kuwait conflict was, again, a UN venture. It's well-known why Afganistan was attacked, and not a single nation in the world objected to it. It's only the current occupation of Iraq that is being criticized, and rightfully so. However, I don't see how anyone can say that the US is a bully, when this is really the first time that it was just arbitrarily decided that force should be used.

            > Is North Korea an axis of evil?

            North Korea has issued some very clear, and very strong threats against the United States.

            I never thought the US should have invaded Iraq, but I don't think military force would be out-of-line in N.Korea, if they maintain their current position. With the spectacle that is Iraq, I seriously doubt millitary action in any other country would get approved.

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            1. By Anonymous Coward () on

              USA has a long history of throwing it's weigth around : political, economical and militarily.

              As Major General Smedley Butler, USMC, put it :
              (http://www.fas.org/man/smedley.htm)

              "War is just a racket. [snip] During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

            2. By Anonymous Coward () on

              >> Is North Korea an axis of evil?

              >North Korea has issued some very clear, and very strong threats against the United States.

              So this makes them evil?

              Last I checked, being part of a conspiracy of pure evil constituted more than just a bunch of empty threats.

  6. By chill () on

    T-shirts are for kids and working around the house. The blowfish polo shirt has some class to it. I'd like to see more polo shirts.

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    1. By Nate () on

      I agree and I want a black polo with the red daemon head embroidered on it. If we can't get the old daemon polo, maybe a new one.

  7. By Valjean () on

    I couldn't help but to laugh with the cruise missile punchline.

  8. By Anonymous Coward () on

    HAR HAR HAR...oh please, what's so political about it? The statement is true! In any case, I laughed my ars off.

  9. By casey roberts () casey.roberts@ttu.edu on mailto:casey.roberts@ttu.edu

    Awesome awesome awesome! I was very upset when I found out that the folks at darpa pulled obsd's funding. I use obsd every day! Horray for Theo! Horray for OBSD! Horray! And you can quote me on that too!

  10. By powerjabber () on

    Cute new shirts, but I can't wear someting that blatant, so I won't be spending my $ on one or two. I would love to spend more on OpenBSD but I just don't want to throw it away on a shirt that doesn't fit my view.

    I'll get our company to buy a fistful of CDs, but man, when will the good looking polo shirts get expanded into some more variations? I know they don't produce as much profit as CD sales, but I sure love to wear my blue OpenBSD polo when I'm not wearing a tie to work.

    So guys, next time try an experiment. DO a release that is non-political, non-sexual (ala Goldfinger or Puffy - Chix), just something that hits security and correctness straight on. See if the sales don't go up.

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    1. By Anil () avsm@ on mailto:avsm@

      DO a release that is non-political, non-sexual (ala Goldfinger or Puffy - Chix)

      jeez ... take all of the fun out of it, why dont you?

    2. By Krunch () on http://krunch.servebeer.com/~krunch/

      DO a release that is non-political, non-sexual (ala Goldfinger or Puffy - Chix), just something that hits security and correctness straight on. See if the sales don't go up.
      So you think it would be better for OBSD developers to care about money instead of free speech ?

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      1. By Anonymous Coward () on

        "Project Funding
        Naturally, the OpenBSD project requires funds to operate, due to Internet line costs and the same hardware upgrade issues everyone experiences. For this reason, the project sells CDROMs of our most recent release. The project also started making tshirts to fund the project. Thus, when you buy an OpenBSD CD or tshirt, whether at a conference, from one of our other locations, or from our CDROM ordering page, you are helping to increase the chance that OpenBSD will make future releases."

        I guess they do, or they would never ask for money. So, as I said, make a shirt that doen't ruffle feathers if you want _everyone_ to buy it. I wouldn't expect McDonalds to advertise "If we think you're fat, we'll say Hi Fatso" and expect sales to go up. It is a _free market_ after all.

        So in plain terms: If you want to make future releases, don't shoot yourself in the foot.

  11. By Anonymous Coward () on

    First off, I wonder if "Drink Like A Fish" was a purposeful pun on the shirt.

    Anyhow, I'm not comfortable with the seemingly political message on the shirt. I actually think someone can take it either way, but I think it was meant a rather anti USG policy slant. Since I support the war effort, its not something I would wear.

    But, really, who cares? I just won't buy it. I'll stick to my Penny Arcade shirts. Theo could have slapped a hammer and sickle on the shirts for all I care, I'll still use OBSD. I just won't buy the shirt.

    It really shouldn't be a big deal to anyone. Quit your whining and go back to work.

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    1. By US murderers US murderers US murderers US murderer () on

      I support the war effort, its not something I would wear.

      You support the murder of innocent children and death of your courageous (perhaps naive) countrymen as being a fair expense for the theft of oil?

      As Alex de Joode once said...

      Just sad that americans make such a big deal out of 9/11.

      And you wonder why ....

      China (1945-46, 1950-53)
      Korea (1950-53)
      Guatemala (1954, 1967-69)
      Indonesia (1958)
      Cuba (1959-60)
      Belgian Congo (1964)
      Peru (1965)
      Laos (1964-73)
      Vietnam (1961-73)
      Cambodia (1969-70)
      Grenada (1983)
      Libya (1986)
      El Salvador (1980s)
      Nicaragua (1980s)
      Panama (1989)
      Iraq (1991-99)
      Bosnia (1995)
      Sudan (1998)
      Yugoslavia (1999)
      Afghanistan (2001-2002)
      Iraq (2003-current)

      At least he DARPA money means two less cruise missiles,
      and maybe saved lives of innocent iraqi citezens ....

      Cheers,
      Alex de Joode adejoode(at)sabotage.org

      The worst is most certainly yet to come. If I were an innocent (insert "evil" ethnic race here) who had his home destroyed and his family killed, I would feel helpless against the US government, her gutless voting supporters and the other filthy supportive nations, that I would strap a bomb to myself and kill as many of them as I could too. Why not? What would I have to live for?

      I say this, as someone who has worked with the higest levels of US military in the past.


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      1. By curious----------------------------sdfasfasasfasfa () on

        So, is that a bug in the code where a name that is too long overwrites the IP address with IP posting turned on?

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        1. By curious%7F%7F%7F%7F%7F%7F%7F%7F%7F%7F () on

          Nope. Maybe some control characters...

          How come the grandparent to this post did show the IP and everything else in this thread did?

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          1. By WooWoo () on

            there is a buffer overflow in the code ;)

      2. By Anonymous Coward () on

        adejoode@sabotage.org

        adejoode@sabotage.org

        adejoode@sabotage.org

        mailto:adejoode@sabotage.org

        Harvet away my spambots! Bush and America SUCKS!

      3. By Anonymous Coward () on

        >
        Over a half trillon dollar deficit didnt stop Bush from asking for $87B more for the war, so I doubt that the million or whatever dollars that went to openbsd in anyway shape or form helped the iraqi's.

  12. By Josh () selerius@codefusion.org on mailto:selerius@codefusion.org

    You know, you all bitch and complain about something everytime there is a release. Now its politics...oh yeah, there is something we REALLY need in OpenBSD.

    If you don't like the shirts/posters/etc. don't buy them. If you feel so strongly about theo's opinions on the USG, and you feel you can't support OpenBSD based on this reason, then stop posting here, and go somewhere else.

    This bickering back and forth about political views is pointless, and accomplishes nothing useful...so you do/don't like the current shirts/posters...do I really care? Nope.

    In the words of my mother, "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", as OpenBSD isn't around to comform to your idealogy's, whatever they may be. Secondly, its not about anything other than this: A quality OS that your depending on, or maybe even your corporation/organization depends on...


    P.s.
    They disabled postings/replys once on deadly.org, and that really pissed me off...but who can blaim them? As like most parts of life, its the one person who spoils it for the masses. Apparently some people didn't heed the warning by the deadly folks, and they are going to be the first people to bitch when they disable posts again. Sad. Sad. Sad.


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    1. By RC () on

      > If you don't like the shirts/posters/etc. don't buy them.

      It was Theo that was saying "please support us". Now, when people are saying why they aren't going to spend money on OpenBSD products, you aren't interested? That's fine with me, just don't ask me for money.

      > If you feel so strongly about theo's opinions on the USG, and you feel you can't support OpenBSD based on this reason, then stop posting here, and go somewhere else.

      When did deadly.org become a site solely for paying customers of OpenBSD?

      > This bickering back and forth about political views is pointless, and accomplishes nothing useful...

      I don't see much bickering. I just see people making their opinion known, that they don't like the political statement on the shirt, and will not buy it for that reason.

      Funny that you think Theo should be able to spread his opinions far and wide, but those with differing views should shut-up and go away.

      > so you do/don't like the current shirts/posters...do I really care? Nope.

      Maybe not directly, but I think you will when the money stops comming in.

      > "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"

      Funny. That's the same thing Pres. Bush said...

      > OpenBSD isn't around to comform to your idealogy's

      OpenBSD isn't around to spread political opinions either. In fact, one of the goals is to be as non-political as possible.

      > A quality OS that your depending on, or maybe even your corporation/organization depends on...

      Be realistic now. OpenBSD has fans, and plenty of people certainly like it, but almost nobody can be said to depend on it, and very few companies depend on it.

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      1. By Anonymous Coward () on www.getabrain.org

        I can't believe how fucking childish all of you are being... this makes you all look like L*nux users. Theo may have resentment for the USG, but why does he have to stoop to such a childish level? When did we start calling names like a bunch idiots? OpenSource Software should have nothing do to with politics... do any of you here honestly think that putting some stupid shitty cartoon on a t-shirt is going to the change the world or make someone any happier than they already are? CANT WE HAVE SHIRTS THAT PROMOTE OPENBSD AND NOT OPENBSD TEAM MEMBER'S POLITICAL VIEWS? I'd be much more proud of a t-shirt that said something like "what you gotta ask yourself is... do I feel lucky?" and a blowfish with a piece of coax cable in one hand and another hand with cat5 and he's holding both like guns in his flippers... or maybe another 2.8 style blowfish with no guns and rockets but just a flipper that appears to be giving a non-existent finger to spammers everywhere with a quote like "make my day spammers" to market OpenBSD's spamd I really love OpenBSD, and I would love to be an advocate for it by wearing as many shirts as possible and plastering my room with the posters, but not for Theo's personal views... IRL, they just make him seem like more of a screwball then ppl already think he is... BTW, why does the 3.0, 3.1, and 3.3 fish look like a prick??? WHY CAN'T THERE BE A MASCOT THAT WILL INSTILL FEAR INTO THE HEARTS OF REDHAT-USIN-SCRIPT-KIDDIES! WHY CAN'T WE GET ANY "COOL" POSTERS? (there are a few though) WHY ARE THERE NO WIREFRAME BLOWFISH SHIRTS? Oh, and stickers are nice... but I wish I could buy rolls of them... my city would be pimped out to the Blowfish and daemon mascots in a matter of hours, and everyone has more than 20 computers... come on, we need more stickers.

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