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OpenBSD: Implementing the Secure UNIX Platform

Contributed by Dengue on from the probably-get-sued-by-SCO-for-mentioning-UNIX- dept.

Kevin writes : "While looking for "Absolute OpenBSD" by Michael W. Lucas, on Amazon, I noticed another OpenBSD book, "OpenBSD : Implementing the Secure UNIX Platform" by Brian Carter. It will ship in December 2003. Here is a link to the book at amazon.com"

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  1. By ViPER () viper@dmrt.net on http://www.dmrt.net

    I'm glad to see some paperware support for our beloved OS ;)

    The link seem to be dead, try this one.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0764539337/ref=sr_aps_books_1_1/202-3821964-6143808

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    1. By Anonymous Coward () on

      The link worked for ok here.

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      1. By Anonymous Coward () on

        He's trying to grab amazon referer money away from deadly.org. Don't click his link.

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        1. By Anonymous Coward () on

          ViPER? I know you from Gerrie... never thought you'd be so lame, ViPER...

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          1. By Anonymous Coward () on

            No. I meant don't click Viper's link.

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              1. By Anonymous Coward () on http://www.noamazon.com/

                Click neither of the links.
                Don't use Amazon.com at all.

                Why? Read here:
                http://www.noamazon.com/

  2. By Tony () aschlemm@comcast.net on mailto:aschlemm@comcast.net

    Here's the ISBN number for the book which makes it easier to search for IMHO:

    0764539337

  3. By bsdguy () on

    Wow another book!

    I remember a years ago, There was no books and now we have about 5 books coming out this year.

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    1. By Darren () on

      Yeah it's amazing. I recall posting this fact to the misc list, and was rudely flamed by the developers. I was shocked!

      But now the books are finally out, it means more users which is never a bad thing.

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      1. By andre () on

        you said that openbsd was not well documented because there were no books about it. this is nonsense.

      2. By Anonymous Coward () on

        "I recall posting this fact to the misc list, and was rudely flamed by the developers. I was shocked!"

        I recall you posting that OpenBSD was undocumented without paper book, which is horribly innaccurate to say the least. You didn't get flamed because you thought it was good that books are coming out, you got flamed because you depreciated the efforts of the developers to create a system that is well documented, without requiring the support of authors and publishers.

    2. By Anonymous Coward () on

      Can you enumerate them?

  4. By Anonymous Coward () on

    > Covers soup-to-nuts detail of security on OpenBSD, a free, Unix-like operating system that has more than 400,000 users worldwide, including hundreds of Internet service providers

    400k eh? where did that figure come from? im not trying to flame, ive always been interested in guesstimates of the number of users. somehow i dont think the number of usenet posts is a reliable indicator :)

  5. By Anonymous Coward () on

    You guys are really taking off, what with all these books coming out, page protection, and what not. Seems like that SSH business and/or the root exploit some months back did you a world of good. Keep it comin'.

  6. By whiner () on

    Can't you just put
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764539337
    in for the URL? That super long link throws off the whole deadly.org front page in konqueror.

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    1. By Anonymous Coward () on

      ditto mozilla...come on, ed.

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      1. By Anonymous Coward () on

        I understand your grievance, but shouldn't you be posting to konqueror/mozilla mailing lists to fix the problem instead of saying "don't post messages with really long contiguous strings". Dengue/Jose shouldn't have to consider browser specific errata when posting a message.

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        1. By Anonymous Coward () on

          True. Let's research it a bit before doing so. How do other browsers fix this? I mean for example IE shows it in some way. A correct way, i assume, since it's name hasn't been noticed in this thread. How? How does it look?

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          1. By Anonymous Coward () on

            IE makes the line wrap about halfway through the link. I would think that moz/konq would have the ability to wrap a string after the number of characters reaches the end of the screen / column.

    2. By tedu () on


      works here, but i use opera. :)

  7. By submicron () submicron.hates.spammers@inherently-evil.net on http://www.inherently-evil.net

    I'm not buying this book unless or until they at (at the VERY least) put the table of contents up, much less a sample chapter. It's nice to see more OpenBSD books out, but they still have to be quality information that I'm not likely to find after reading a few dozen webpages and newsgroup posts. The Absolute OpenBSD book is one such example of what I mean, and that's why I won't bother to buy a copy. Also, is the author of this book making a donation to the OpenBSD project from the sales? Clearly more information is needed.

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    1. By Anonymous Coward () on

      Also, is the author of this book making a donation to the OpenBSD project from the sales?

      -Why? there's zero requirements to do that.
      Even without it, making a book introduces the OS better for new users who in turn then give money to project by starting to buy all the t-shirts and CDs etc. So, without any donations, it gets money indirectly to the project anyways.

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      1. By Anonymous Coward () on

        -Why? there's zero requirements to do that.


        That might be so but , inquiring minds still want to know.

        I might only have enough money to buy 1 of the books
        coming out, in which case I'd personally, want to buy the book that is going to directly help the project out the most.

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        1. By Anonymous Coward () on

          "I might only have enough money to buy 1 of the books
          coming out, in which case I'd personally, want to buy the book that is going to directly help the project out the most."

          Perhaps the money should be spent on CDs and stickers if you want to help out the project more than you actually care about the book. I'm sure those would put more money towards the project.

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          1. By Give () on

            Donating is the best way to give to the project.
            It has the least overhead of all methods.
            credit card
             credit card
            Buy a book if you want to learn more about OBSD. Donate if you want to give the most to the project. Pick something in between if you must feel like you are getting something more for your money (in addition to OpenBSD itself).

      2. By submicron () etc.blah@inherently-evil.net on http://www.inherently-evil.net

        Sure, there's no requirement to do it. But since these people have been working their asses off to give us a quality OS, which many of us have then turned around and made money from, it seems appropriate that we show them a certain debt of gratitude. My personal opinion is that the same goes for people writing books. And my *personal* choice is to not buy OpenBSD books that don't contribute monetarily back to the project.

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        1. By Brian Carter () on

          I agree and that is exactly why 100% of the royalties for this work will be donated to OpenBSD (minus a small advance that I have already taken). However, if you want the book, buy it because it is useful, not because of the donation - if you want to donate, you should donate directly. OpenBSD is free and it rocks so for me donating the royalties makes sense (I just hope people think the book rocks, too).

          I'll check to see about posting a sample chapter and table of contents, I think the editors have to approve stuff like that first.

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          1. By submicron () submicron.doesnt.love.spam@inherently-evil.net on http://www.inherently-evil.net

            Hi Brian,

            Thanks for replying back and setting the record straight. I repeal my previous objections to your book based on the donations issue, and I will look forward to seeing any more detail about the book that you're able to put up prior to its date of availability. For what its worth, I'm really glad that more people are writing books about the use of OpenBSD and I think that kind of support will really go a long way towards making it more accessible to everyone.

    2. By Anonymous Coward () on

      "but they still have to be quality information that I'm not likely to find after reading a few dozen webpages and newsgroup posts. The Absolute OpenBSD book is one such example of what I mean, and that's why I won't bother to buy a copy."


      Wow that's a pretty negative comment. I think the Abolute OpenBSD book is really good. Sure I can go to google and search for most of the info that the book contains, waste a couple of hours sifting through mailing lists, while my server is down and most of my users are unable to do anything, or, I can open up my handy reference book, and scroll to the section I need in a few minutes. A simple case of using the best tool for the current job at hand.

      Your point is however well taken, and I do agree with many aspects of it, and from a personal rather than company style perspective I think that I would look to buy a book that sheds new insight on the Operating System I choose to use. Which is what I presuming was the essence of your post.

      -bygones-

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      1. By submicron () on

        I understand what you're trying to say, but since the OS is a moving target, such reference manuals are of limited useability. And honestly, the material I saw present in Absolute OpenBSD wasn't anything that hasn't been easily available. *shrug* I'm not saying its not a good book for newbies, but most of the people posting on this site aren't exactly newbies either.

  9. By Anonymous Coward () on http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html

    See URL.

    Is there a way to buy this book in a different way? I for one am from the Netherlands and don't have a creditcard (i do have cheese and a windmill ;).

  10. By Anonymous Coward () on

    Title: OpenBSD Firewalling
    ISBN: 3826609395
    Author: Jörg Kütemeier

    http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3826609395/ref=pd_sims_dp__1/302-2904817-5351250

    Does not appear to have been released yet, and looks like it will be written in German.

    Good to see so many OpenBSD books in the works.

    Message from author:
    http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=103488499108960&w=2

    Any news on this title, for all the German OpenBSD users out there?

  11. By Anonymous Coward () on

    Title: OpenBSD Firewalling
    ISBN: 3826609395
    Author: Jörg Kütemeier

    http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3826609395/ref=pd_sims_dp__1/302-2904817-5351250

    Does not appear to have been released yet, and looks like it will be written in German.

    Good to see so many OpenBSD books in the works.

    Message from author:
    http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=103488499108960&w=2

    Any news on this title, for all the German OpenBSD users out there?

  12. By Anonymous Coward () on

    I belive that a contribution should be made to the project even if minimal just to use OpenBSD the name to sell their book. Espicialy since M$ stoped the US DoD grant money.

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