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IOBSD - A Storage Focused BSD

Contributed by jason on from the we-all-remember-when-10-megs-was-enough dept.

The IOBSD project has released their first public beta of IOBSD. This storage-focused fork of OpenBSD was created to address the storage shortcomings of the security-focused OpenBSD community. Founders Marco Peereboom, Darren Reed and Thorsten Glaser have been working in parallel on this project for a few months now.

"Although Open[BSD] is a really good platform for firewalls, we feel that Theo et. al have spent a disproportionate amount of time and effort with stuff like CARP and BLOBs and license wars", explains Marco. "Our users have been clamoring for advanced storage features like a journaling filesystem and distributed storage nodes. Our primary goal for the 1.0 release is to port Linux resierfs to IOBSD. Beyond that is anyone's guess, but as always, we're focused on user requests."

Interested users are asked to visit the project website and download current snapshots for testing.

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  1. By Anonymous Coward (24.8.70.179) on

    LOL. I think you should include the DSTfilesystem as well, where it does backups on every time change during the hour that gets lost/repeated.

    Comments

    1. By Jim Razmus II (jim) on http://www.bonetruck.org/

      > LOL. I think you should include the DSTfilesystem as well, where it does backups on every time change during the hour that gets lost/repeated.

      Why stop at hourly? Port the file system from VMS.

  2. By Curtis Gallant (74.121.251.96) on http://soleauthority.ca

    Love the picture of the rack in the corner

  3. By Anonymous Coward (24.113.149.46) on

    stop posting these stupid april fools stories, thanks

    Comments

    1. By Anonymous Coward (76.16.132.204) on

      > stop posting these stupid april fools stories, thanks

      Actually, some of use love these april fools stories, its the only reason why I checked undeadly tonight.

    2. By Anonymous Coward (66.174.79.234) on

      > stop posting these stupid april fools stories, thanks

      It's one day a year. Don't read stuff posted on April 1st if you are too stuck up to laugh. Geez, some people really need to lighten up.

      Kudos to the author.

  4. By matvey (210.136.232.129) on

    There should be a link from /dev/null for the aipril 1st ftp release! :)
    Cool!

    Comments

    1. By Matthew Dempsky (76.182.204.23) on

      > There should be a link from /dev/null for the aipril 1st ftp release! :)

      Or "file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Jason%20Dixon/My%20Documents/IOBSD/".

  5. By jason (TheDudeAbides) jason@snakelegs.org on http://www.snakelegs.org

    Why isn't www.iobsd.org hosted on Solaris ?!?

    Comments

    1. By iwanek08 (212.244.167.162) on

      > Why isn't www.iobsd.org hosted on Solaris ?!?

      This joke is the BEST :)

  6. By Zack Jansen (76.16.132.204) jansen@iobsd.net on

    ROFL! Funny, nonetheless IOBSD is a cool name, hopefully someone will fork OpenBSD just to use this name. :P

  7. By grey (63.249.87.17) on

    SWEET!

    Next April fool's: IOUBSD

    I'll get back to you on it though. ;)

    \m/

  8. By Leonardo Rodrigues (201.34.47.150) on

    Heh, this got me until I read they were trying to port ReiserFS to OpenBSD !
    I said "WTF? ReiserFS? Are they stupid or what?"
    Only then I realized the april's fools joke :P

    Comments

    1. By Jeremy Huiskamp (kamper) on

      > Heh, this got me until I read they were trying to port ReiserFS to OpenBSD !
      > I said "WTF? ReiserFS? Are they stupid or what?"
      > Only then I realized the april's fools joke :P

      Same here, although there were so many dead obvious clues before that :(

    2. By Thorsten Glaser (87.79.237.121) on http://mirbsd.de/

      > I said "WTF? ReiserFS? Are they stupid or what?"

      Actually, ReiserFS is cool. But to really exploit its potential,
      you'd need high-level app support, say, in databases.

      What I'd really like to see is LFS. That's not in the area where
      I'm hacking on, though, I'm improving different things.

      > Only then I realized the april's fools joke :P

      I think these are stupid, but the RCSID contained jdixon, who is
      the publisher of this story on undeadly, and not one of the other
      named persons. (Darren Who?)

      But to even register an entire domain, you people are surely
      spending the money OpenBSD receives through donations on things
      that matter.

      And, c'mon, if you'd followed the progress of MirOS, you'd have
      seen we not only offer netinstall (via http, not ftp, which is
      a protocol that must die, ancient, unfirewallable, with kludges
      for IPv6 support, etc.) but also a Live+Install ISO for free
      download (usually via BitTorrent). http://f.scarywater.net/miros/
      Feel free to have a go at it.
      Thus it's highly unlikely I'd go the less free ways. (À propos
      free, how about the GPLv3? The latest draft looks like perl source
      code to me, much worse than what they had before, and certainly
      not suitable for inclusion in base.)

      But I must admit I had a few laughs, too.

      Comments

      1. By Jeremy Huiskamp (kamper) on

        > But to even register an entire domain, you people are surely
        > spending the money OpenBSD receives through donations on things
        > that matter.

        Surely! Or maybe he spent his own money?

        Comments

        1. By Deanna Phillips (deanna) on

          > > But to even register an entire domain, you people are surely
          > > spending the money OpenBSD receives through donations on things
          > > that matter.
          >
          > Surely! Or maybe he spent his own money?

          Of course he did. Settle down, it's just a bit of fun. :)

      2. By Jason Dixon (jason) jason@dixongroup.net on

        > > Only then I realized the april's fools joke :P
        >
        > I think these are stupid, but the RCSID contained jdixon, who is
        > the publisher of this story on undeadly, and not one of the other
        > named persons. (Darren Who?)
        >
        > But to even register an entire domain, you people are surely
        > spending the money OpenBSD receives through donations on things
        > that matter.

        This attitude is a great example of why we make fun of you. I registered iobsd.org out of my own pocket yesterday, it has nothing to do with the OpenBSD project.

        > And, c'mon, if you'd followed the progress of MirOS, you'd have

        Nobody cares, go troll somewhere else.

        > But I must admit I had a few laughs, too.

        Glad we agree on something.

      3. By Anonymous Coward (66.174.79.234) on

        > > I said "WTF? ReiserFS? Are they stupid or what?"
        >
        > Actually, ReiserFS is cool. But to really exploit its potential,
        > you'd need high-level app support, say, in databases.

        >
        > I think these are stupid, but the RCSID contained jdixon, who is
        > the publisher of this story on undeadly, and not one of the other
        > named persons. (Darren Who?)
        >
        > But to even register an entire domain, you people are surely
        > spending the money OpenBSD receives through donations on things
        > that matter.
        >
        > And, c'mon, if you'd followed the progress of MirOS, you'd have
        > seen we not only offer netinstall (via http, not ftp, which is
        >
        > But I must admit I had a few laughs, too.

        So you don't think it's funny, but you have no problem plugging your OS that you know most people in this community laugh at, and you wonder why they're laughing? Then you conclude that you "had a few laughs"

        Read what you wrote a few times, if you're not laughing at yourself, keep re-reading.

        Some people on this planet take themselves way too seriously.

      4. By Anonymous Coward (74.14.158.179) on

        I always did think it funny you spent money for your joke domain Thorsten, at least Jason had the sense to let everyone know it was a joke if they clicked on any of the links.

      5. By clvrmnky (69.28.228.76) on

        > > I said "WTF? ReiserFS? Are they stupid or what?"
        >
        > Actually, ReiserFS is cool. But to really exploit its potential,
        > you'd need high-level app support, say, in databases.
        >
        > What I'd really like to see is LFS. That's not in the area where
        > I'm hacking on, though, I'm improving different things.
        >
        Hmmm. That has pretty much been abandoned. Certainly there were good ideas in LFS, but it might be better to move forward with something more modern if I was to be convinced to move away from $FILESYSTEM that $OS pretty much expects.

        > > Only then I realized the april's fools joke :P
        >
        > I think these are stupid, but the RCSID contained jdixon, who is
        > the publisher of this story on undeadly, and not one of the other
        > named persons. (Darren Who?)
        >
        History, m'boy. History. I recall this person was the reason for adding a joke clause to licensing regarding dropping nukes on Australia.

        > But to even register an entire domain, you people are surely
        > spending the money OpenBSD receives through donations on things
        > that matter.
        >
        This is the silliest thing I've heard today. You do know that a.) domains cost almost nothing, and b.) there is no indication that anyone at OpenBSD used money earmarked for the project to do this.

        It's a joke, son. Lighten up.

        > And, c'mon, if you'd followed the progress of MirOS, you'd have
        > seen we not only offer netinstall (via http, not ftp, which is
        > a protocol that must die, ancient, unfirewallable, with kludges
        > for IPv6 support, etc.) but also a Live+Install ISO for free
        > download (usually via BitTorrent). http://f.scarywater.net/miros/
        > Feel free to have a go at it.

        I took a quick look at the project page. I'm not sure I get it. I am not trying to stir the ant's nest here, but what are the actual goals of the project? Security? Well, yeah. I mean, security is an ongoing process, and OpenBSD has that covered pretty well. Always room for improvement, I guess.

        But, the list <http://www.mirbsd.org/?about> of significant differences from OpenBSD is occasionally (and unintentionally?) funny. A database of acronyms? The inclusion of a monthly script in order to support BSDstats? A uname change?

        There might be useful stuff in that list, but these are not them. You should remove cruft like this and focus on what you intend to bring to the table. For example, the attempt at localization is certainly a welcome addition for many people.

        Not sure I get the point of Yet Another Ports System, either, but maybe that's just me.

        >
        > But I must admit I had a few laughs, too.
        Well, good. Seeing as this was, you know, the point.

        Comments

        1. By Thorsten Glaser (87.79.237.121) on http://mirbsd.de/mksh

          > > named persons. (Darren Who?)
          > >
          > History, m'boy. History.

          Yeah, I know that's the ipf guy, but I haven't read his name
          for years or so.

          <off-topic>

          > I took a quick look at the project page.

          Sometimes I think no website would've been better than what
          we have now. That content is so out of date...

          > what are the actual goals
          > of the project?

          Improving OpenBSD mostly in the user-space area (unicode, GNU toolchain,
          native BSD tools, ports system), and maybe some low-level i386 stuff (if
          I ever get the time, I'm going to write a DOS-based bootloader, that can
          save arses if done right). Targetting a market of "small to medium sized
          servers" and "developer workstations", mostly.

          And then, of course, the offspring programmes (mostly mksh at the moment).

          > There might be useful stuff in that list, but these are not them. You
          > should remove cruft like this and focus on what you intend to bring to
          > the table.

          Sure. Read about what I said about the website above.

          > Not sure I get the point of Yet Another Ports System, either, but
          > maybe that's just me.

          Well, not everyone likes espietools, since they make even more use
          of the dreaded perl. We're trying to clean up; portability helps too,
          and we've actually understood autotools and libtool.

          </off-topic>

          > > But I must admit I had a few laughs, too.
          > Well, good. Seeing as this was, you know, the point.

          Some of the responses weren't funny though.

    3. By Anonymous Coward (64.80.197.181) on

      > Heh, this got me until I read they were trying to port ReiserFS to OpenBSD !
      > I said "WTF? ReiserFS? Are they stupid or what?"

      Why not? It's a killer FS!

      Comments

      1. By Jeremy Huiskamp (kamper) on

        > > Heh, this got me until I read they were trying to port ReiserFS to OpenBSD !
        > > I said "WTF? ReiserFS? Are they stupid or what?"
        >
        > Why not? It's a killer FS!
        >

        Took me a second, but that was pretty funny, in an irreverent sort of way :p

  9. By Isak (87.60.203.164) isak@lyberth.dk on

    I actually felt myself pale up just a little, thinking - NOOOoooaaaaarhh shit i fell for it...
    when i think back on two minutes ago i still get that feeling in my stomach that things are not as it should be...

  10. By Anonymous Coward (81.83.81.251) on

    Seriously, this place really has turned into slashdot..

    Comments

    1. By Anonymous Coward (66.174.79.234) on

      > Seriously, this place really has turned into slashdot..

      Seriously, pull the stick out of your ass and lighten up a tad.

  11. By Marc Espie (213.41.185.88) espie@openbsd.org on

    Come on,
    Marco Pereboom, Thorsten Glaser, and Darren Reed ?
    like, dead give away, get these to cooperate, oh wow...

    the jdixon Id line is a nice touch. ;-)

    Comments

    1. By mk (85.129.3.253) on

      > Come on,
      > Marco Pereboom, Thorsten Glaser, and Darren Reed ?
      > like, dead give away, get these to cooperate, oh wow...

      Yeah, they'd need vh to mediate.

      Comments

      1. By Deanna Phillips (deanna) on

        > > Come on,
        > > Marco Pereboom, Thorsten Glaser, and Darren Reed ?
        > > like, dead give away, get these to cooperate, oh wow...
        >
        > Yeah, they'd need vh to mediate.

        I would buy a TV just to order that on pay-per-view. And yes my money would be on marco. :)

    2. By Anonymous Coward (87.79.237.121) on

      > the jdixon Id line is a nice touch. ;-)

      http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iobsd.org%2F

      This one too ;-)

  12. By Anonymous Coward (65.96.221.40) on

    By far this is my fav part:

    http://www.iobsd.org/storage.html

    <i>IOBSD believes in high capacity. Lots of it. So much, in fact, that the porn industry will make us the platform of choice for their realtime editing and distribution needs.</i>

    Comments

    1. By Renaud Allard (renaud) on

      I also very much like this one:

      IOBSD is not freely available from our FTP sites, and also not available in an inexpensive 3-CD set.

  13. By Anonymous Coward (65.96.221.40) on

    By far this is my fav part: http://www.iobsd.org/storage.html IOBSD believes in high capacity. Lots of it. So much, in fact, that the porn industry will make us the platform of choice for their realtime editing and distribution needs.

  14. By Matthew Mulrooney (66.18.211.194) on

    Jason: completely off topic here - but I love the rack you've got in the bottom right (not the computer equipment - the rack). I've switched all of my infrastructure into these things (I think they are NSF brand).

    Suggestion - you can get standard 4" swivel casters for each corner. Adding casters makes it stupid easy to access the backs (i.e. cabling) of all the machines. [Just roll the rack away from the wall :).]

    Matthew

    Comments

    1. By Anonymous Coward (212.194.218.147) on

      > Jason: completely off topic here - but I love the rack you've got in the bottom right (not the computer equipment - the rack). I've switched all of my infrastructure into these things (I think they are NSF brand).
      >
      > Suggestion - you can get standard 4" swivel casters for each corner. Adding casters makes it stupid easy to access the backs (i.e. cabling) of all the machines. [Just roll the rack away from the wall :).]
      >
      > Matthew

      And that's also good at handling wine :)

    2. By Jason Dixon (jason) jason@dixongroup.net on

      > Jason: completely off topic here - but I love the rack you've got in the bottom right (not the computer equipment - the rack). I've switched all of my infrastructure into these things (I think they are NSF brand).

      Ours are Metro brand, from the Container Store. They're made for kitchens, but they work great for towers too. The stairway won't allow me to get a cabinet through, so these are a good compromise.

      > Suggestion - you can get standard 4" swivel casters for each corner. Adding casters makes it stupid easy to access the backs (i.e. cabling) of all the machines. [Just roll the rack away from the wall :).]

      Yeah, I've thought of that before. It's never been a big issue. Thanks though.

    3. By Alan DeWitt (66.224.219.110) alan.dewitt@gmail.com on

      > (I think they are NSF brand).

      FYI, "<a href="http://nsf.org/business/about_NSF/">NSF</a>" is a NGO standards body for sanitation. A lot of kitchen equipment (like the Metro-brand rack) has an NSF stamp to identify it as meeting a food-safe cleanability standard. The NSF mark is analagous to a UL listing mark on electrical applicance.

      Comments

      1. By Matthew Mulrooney (66.18.211.194) on

        > > (I think they are NSF brand).
        > FYI, NSF is a NGO standards body for sanitation.

        Alrighty, thanks Alan - that's good to know. My servers never had it so good ;).

  15. By Brynet (Brynet) on

    Anyone else notice the Nerf gun on the bottom shelf? haha :-)

    http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/6237/nerfva1.png

    That for sale too? hehe :)

  16. By Anonymous Coward (204.9.40.20) on

    This reminds me - is there any interest in improving the disk / storage encryption capabilities in OpenBSD? In my opinion, svnd is showing its age cryptographically, such as only supporting Blowfish. Linux's dm-crypt, NetBSD's cgd, and FreeBSD's GEOM appear to be more cryptographically modern and have more developer interest. I would expect OpenBSD to be a leader in disk encrypiton, but it looks like that feature has fallen behind. I'd very much like to see someone capable and interested pick up the torch.

    I'd fix it myself, but I'm in the US :(

    Comments

    1. By Anonymous Coward (122.49.148.225) on

      > I'd fix it myself, but I'm in the US :(
      >

      Perhaps you should get an shell account in some other part of the world, log in, and you can do development from outside the US. 100% legit, I'm sure.

      Comments

      1. By Anonymous Coward (151.188.247.104) on

        > >I'd fix it myself, but I'm in the US :(
        > > Perhaps you should get an shell account in some other part of the world, log in, and you can do development from outside the US. 100% legit, I'm sure.
        >

        Sadly, no. Last I read them, the laws apply to you, the US Citizen, even if you do the development work elsewhere (e. g. Canada). So, the instant that you re-enter US territory, you could end up like Dmitry Skylarov.

        Our politicians are so stupid sometimes....

        Comments

        1. By tedu (69.12.168.115) on


          > > Perhaps you should get an shell account in some other part of the world, log in, and you can do development from outside the US. 100% legit, I'm sure.

          developing on a remote machine is likely to be counted as exporting.



          > Sadly, no. Last I read them, the laws apply to you, the US Citizen, even if you do the development work elsewhere (e. g. Canada). So, the instant that you re-enter US territory, you could end up like Dmitry Skylarov.

          except that it's not illegal for us citizens to write cryptographic software.

          dmitry isn't a us citizen either, but way to throw it into the mix.

  17. By sthen (85.158.44.148) on

    free downloads now available (-:

  18. By Anonymous Coward (151.188.247.104) on

    OK, this is cute, and funny. The quip about the porn industry was indeed precious. Sometimes, some folks get so involved into the computer that they forget to have a sense of humor. Glad you're not one of those. :-)

    So, when is the port of Windows Vista to IOBSD going to be done? Oh, sorry, forgot that IOBSD, as a "trusted" platform, doesn't trust Vista. :-D

    The links leading to the real OpenBSD project are a nice touch, too, and add some sincerity to the joke.

    Well done!


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