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OpenBSD - p2k6 @ Budapest

Contributed by robert on from the slackathon dept.

The OpenBSD portathon, the mini-hackathon for porters started today in Budapest. Almost everyone arrived yesterday and one of the developers even missed his flight, but fortunately he managed to catch another one.
The hacking room is located in the city center near the Danube river.
There may be some interesting changes to the ports tree during the week so if you are interested follow the ports-changes@ mailing list or you can even participate remotely.

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  1. By jasper (82.94.1.57) jasper@ on

    ...can't wait to get to BUD tomorrow :)

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    1. By Anonymous Coward (87.78.90.228) on

      > ...can't wait to get to BUD tomorrow :)

      So you, jasper@, are the one who missed his flight?!? "Pfui!" ;)
      Already there?

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      1. By jasper (80.60.145.215) jasper@ on

        > So you, jasper@, are the one who missed his flight?!? "Pfui!" ;)
        > Already there?
        No, it wasn't me who missed his flight and I'll be flying tonight.
        I couldn't come earlier because of tests at school that I can't miss (though I'll be missing those on friday >:).

  2. By Michael Osburn (72.164.242.200) michael@mosburn.com on

    Glad to hear this has started. I am looking forward to improvements and new ports to use.

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    1. By David T. Harris (206.57.90.99) on http://beap-cf.org

      > Glad to hear this has started. I am looking forward to improvements and new ports to use.


      Same here - I was overjoyed to find that djvu and Xine were added to ports a few months ago! I wonder what other great applications will get ported.

  3. By Anonymous Coward (82.165.25.219) on

    hu?
    Do people actually use OpenBSD?

    --

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    1. By David (206.57.90.99) on

      > hu?
      > Do people actually use OpenBSD?
      >
      You are joking I hope. A lot of people use OpenBSD - if you don't believe me just look at the enormous amount of posts to OpenBSD-misc every day. OpenBSD is still the most secure OS on the planet, and in this day and age where virus's, addware, botnets, etc... are pervading the internet security is on a lot of people's minds. That plus OpenBSD is also known for making strides in networking as well as other areas I'm probably not aware of. If it weren't for OpenBSD can you imagine where SSH would be today?


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      1. By Anonymous Coward (82.165.25.219) on

        > > hu?
        > > Do people actually use OpenBSD?
        > >
        > You are joking I hope. A lot of people use OpenBSD - if you don't believe me just look at the enormous amount of posts to OpenBSD-misc every day. OpenBSD is still the most secure OS on the planet, and in this day and age where virus's, addware, botnets, etc... are pervading the internet security is on a lot of people's minds. That plus OpenBSD is also known for making strides in networking as well as other areas I'm probably not aware of. If it weren't for OpenBSD can you imagine where SSH would be today?
        >

        I wasn't. I stopped using OpenBSD after my www and MX got owned respectively by apache-scalp, and sshutup-theo exploits. Worst happened when one of my user (sniffed?) used the select() bug on a shellbox I administrate and rm'ed it. Since then, I switched to another OS, and suprisingly I feel much more safe. Anyway, best luck for whoever use it.

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        1. By Anonymous Coward (216.175.250.42) on

          >I stopped using OpenBSD after my www and MX got owned respectively by apache-scalp, and sshutup-theo exploits. Worst happened when one of my user (sniffed?) used the select() bug on a shellbox I administrate and rm'ed it. Since then, I switched to another OS, and suprisingly I feel much more safe. Anyway, best luck for whoever use it.
          >

          I'm certainly glad that you've found an OS that magically makes all software running on it bug-free.

          Mayhaps you'll share this wonderful, magical tool that we all may marvel at its total lack of existence.

        2. By Anonymous Coward (156.34.218.41) on


          > I wasn't. I stopped using OpenBSD after my www and MX got owned respectively by apache-scalp, and sshutup-theo exploits. Worst happened when one of my user (sniffed?) used the select() bug on a shellbox I administrate and rm'ed it. Since then, I switched to another OS, and suprisingly I feel much more safe. Anyway, best luck for whoever use it.

          Here's a jealously guarded secret I once heard from an elite OpenBSD guy. I'll share it with you:

          "New releases come out every 6 months and they are free, so you don't wait for several years before upgrading."

        3. By Anonymous Coward (87.78.90.228) on

          There is no such thing as magic. It just takes someone who knows what he is doing.

        4. By Anonymous Coward (213.118.21.55) on

          > > > hu?
          > > > Do people actually use OpenBSD?
          > > >
          > > You are joking I hope. A lot of people use OpenBSD - if you don't believe me just look at the enormous amount of posts to OpenBSD-misc every day. OpenBSD is still the most secure OS on the planet, and in this day and age where virus's, addware, botnets, etc... are pervading the internet security is on a lot of people's minds. That plus OpenBSD is also known for making strides in networking as well as other areas I'm probably not aware of. If it weren't for OpenBSD can you imagine where SSH would be today?
          > >
          >
          > I wasn't. I stopped using OpenBSD after my www and MX got owned respectively by apache-scalp, and sshutup-theo exploits. Worst happened when one of my user (sniffed?) used the select() bug on a shellbox I administrate and rm'ed it. Since then, I switched to another OS, and suprisingly I feel much more safe. Anyway, best luck for whoever use it.
          >
          > --
          >

          I read apache-scalp affected (at least) win32, Solaris, FeeBSD, OpenBSD and Linux. The sshutup-theo exploit affected any vulnerable OpenSSH 2.9.9-3.3 sshd. (offcourse it could be that I'm badly informed)

          So I'm curious, what magical OS did you switched to?

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          1. By Renaud Allard (85.201.63.39) on


            >
            > I read apache-scalp affected (at least) win32, Solaris, FeeBSD, OpenBSD and Linux. The sshutup-theo exploit affected any vulnerable OpenSSH 2.9.9-3.3 sshd. (offcourse it could be that I'm badly informed)
            >
            > So I'm curious, what magical OS did you switched to?

            Probably one of the only OS which doesn't generally run neither apache neither ssh (Ie: Windows).
            Honestly, this anonymous coward is just a troll, nothing more, nothing less.

    2. By Anonymous Coward (137.240.136.81) on

      > hu?
      > Do people actually use OpenBSD?
      >
      > --
      >
      don't feed the troll..

    3. By phessler (64.173.147.26) on

      > hu?
      > Do people actually use OpenBSD?
      >
      > --
      >

      if you don't use it, why are you reading undeadly?

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      1. By Renaud Allard (85.201.63.39) on

        > > hu?
        > > Do people actually use OpenBSD?
        > >
        > > --
        > >
        >
        > if you don't use it, why are you reading undeadly?

        When I posted the pics of the 4.0 CD box, I noticed in my logs that most people were using either windows, macosx or linux to view the pictures. Not much of them were using OpenBSD...

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        1. By Chris (68.225.189.146) on

          > When I posted the pics of the 4.0 CD box, I noticed in my logs that most people were using either windows, macosx or linux to view the pictures. Not much of them were using OpenBSD...
          >

          User-Agent strings are not the end all to the network.

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          1. By Anonymous Coward (87.78.90.228) on

            > User-Agent strings are not the end all to the network.

            Yes, they are just too much fun to not "play" with.

        2. By Anonymous Coward (82.154.114.152) on

          > > > hu?
          > > > Do people actually use OpenBSD?
          > > >
          > > > --
          > > >
          > >
          > > if you don't use it, why are you reading undeadly?
          >
          > When I posted the pics of the 4.0 CD box, I noticed in my logs that most people were using either windows, macosx or linux to view the pictures. Not much of them were using OpenBSD...
          >
          >
          I manage about a dozen OpenBSD servers, some FreeBSD servers too, and I use windows as a desktop. What's the problem? Was it expected that I use some crappy X Windowmanager, just to be cool?

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          1. By Anonymous Coward (87.78.90.228) on

            > I manage about a dozen OpenBSD servers, some FreeBSD servers too, and I use windows as a desktop. What's the problem? Was it expected that I use some crappy X Windowmanager, just to be cool?

            Theo is the only one allowed to be pragmatic. ;)

            This is undeadly... You should be ashamed of yourself! 8)
            There is enough you could do to make any WM suck less. :)

          2. By Anonymous Coward (74.115.21.120) on

            > I manage about a dozen OpenBSD servers, some FreeBSD servers too, and I use windows as a desktop. What's the problem? Was it expected that I use some crappy X Windowmanager, just to be cool?

            No, you're allowed to use any of the good desktop environments, you don't have to use gnome.

          3. By Anonymous Coward (156.34.218.41) on

            > I manage about a dozen OpenBSD servers, some FreeBSD servers too, and I use windows as a desktop. What's the problem? Was it expected that I use some crappy X Windowmanager, just to be cool?

            All a matter of taste I guess. I personally don't care much for the Windows environment and much prefer a 'crappy X Windowmanager'. Microsoft seems to aim the UI at the 'lowest common denominator' and then does not even allow you to configure it any meaningful way (Grrr...). If you bob back and forth between dozens of computers controlled by many different people, I suppose this is a good thing (all machine have the exact same interface). But I spend months and months locked in front of a particular machine. I want it to adapt to me, and not the other way around. Windows does this very poorly. In fairness, so do some of the X windowing environments I've seen, but fortunately there is a lot of choice.

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            1. By Anonymous Coward (82.154.120.42) on

              > > I manage about a dozen OpenBSD servers, some FreeBSD servers too, and I use windows as a desktop. What's the problem? Was it expected that I use some crappy X Windowmanager, just to be cool?
              >
              > All a matter of taste I guess. I personally don't care much for the Windows environment and much prefer a 'crappy X Windowmanager'. Microsoft seems to aim the UI at the 'lowest common denominator' and then does not even allow you to configure it any meaningful way (Grrr...). If you bob back and forth between dozens of computers controlled by many different people, I suppose this is a good thing (all machine have the exact same interface). But I spend months and months locked in front of a particular machine. I want it to adapt to me, and not the other way around. Windows does this very poorly. In fairness, so do some of the X windowing environments I've seen, but fortunately there is a lot of choice.
              >
              >

              There are several reasons why I use windows. I won't deny it - I like it, and properly managed, is a quite good desktop. Not only the applications seems to be running on the same operating system, but on slower machines it performs better than X equivalent (KDE && Gnome). I also need decent color profiling, some commercial graphical applications, decent font rendering (some *nix distros with font AA look like a hooker with lipgloss) and a clipboard that actually works - I can copy an image from firefox and paste it on a graphics program without worrying about widget tookits and such. I also do some software development on windows, so I need it anyway. I actually have X (gnome) via VNC on a local test server, but I use it very rarely. I've tried most of the mainstream windowmanagers and I have a softspot for blackbox/fluxbox (I even used the windows version of blackbox for some time), but I find them lacking in capabilities and/or some things displaced. It's a matter of taste and habit, I guess someone used to some X windowmanager will find windows unfriendly. I think people should use what makes them more confortable and helps them being more productive.

        3. By Anonymous Coward (87.78.90.228) on

          > When I posted the pics of the 4.0 CD box, I noticed in my logs that most people were using either windows, macosx or linux to view the pictures. Not much of them were using OpenBSD...

          A lot of ppl don't have a choice what OS they use at work to feed their children.
          Reading articles on undeadly helps a bit to stay sane in those enviroments. :)

    4. By Anonymous Coward (68.227.41.220) on

      > hu?
      > Do people actually use OpenBSD?
      >
      > --
      >

      http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060321034114&pid=71&mode=expanded
      troll.

  4. By Luis (72.25.103.180) on

    Thats great news. Can wait to see the outcome of this mini-hackathon. Have fun guys!

  5. By niallo (82.195.149.9) on

    Very cool, already see tons of commits hitting the tree from this :-)

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