Contributed by Dengue on from the comes-up-every-year dept.
Snippet:
http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~ateras/travel/debian_conference/
slides:
http://www.schuldei.org/andreas/talks/lsm-2001/
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This should spark some interesting comments. It seems like there is always some move to try and create a more minimized, custom OpenBSD-based distribution. Personally, I like the integration of the current method. Having to maintain a bunch of inter-related package dependencies is one of the reasons I switched from Linux in the first place.
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By Isak Lyberth () ily@vejlehs.dk on mailto:ily@vejlehs.dk
I think in the long run, yes. The more people who audit code the better, no matter wich OS they are auditing for. Better quality code makes it easyer for the OBSD audit team.
So it doesn't really matter if they will move apt to bsd, If they can fix the bugs in apt it could make it easyer for newbies to run a workstation.
Speculations, speculations
By Frank DENIS () j@pureftpd.org on http://www.pureftpd.org
Having Debian packaging tools will imply a fork of OpenBSD. That's bad. Some bugs will affect OpenBSD-normal, other bugs will affect Debian OpenBSD, fixes won't be the same, software versions won't be the same, binary packages won't be trusted, etc.
What OpenBSD needs is more ports, and UP TO DATE ports. And the Debian folks can help on that point. There are active Debian maintainers for every project. Maybe they can also maintain the OpenBSD port of the same software. It's not a hell once a port has already be done. Mostly only the version number and the integrity sum have to be changed.
By Anonymous Coward () on
Does anyone know if the plans to Debianize the OpenBSD distribution include GPL'ing OpenBSD?
By jxqvg () jxqvg@hotmail.com on mailto:jxqvg@hotmail.com
Do you really want to hear Stallman insisting that it's GNU /OpenBSD?
But seriously, won't that just install a false sense of security in those who choose to use this distro? Considering a set of packages secure would require some pretty serious auditing, and that won't be easy with some of the larger(and probably more important) ones, will it?
By Jeff Flowers () jeff@jeffreyf.net on mailto:jeff@jeffreyf.net
Of course, I understand why this isn't being done and since I am not a programmer and cannot help, I have not suggested this to anyone. After all, how much can you complain about a free OS, especially one as good as OpenBSD?
Just my 2 cents.
Jeff
By BoBo () none@privacy.org on none
Amen. Took the words right out of my mouth.
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By Anonymous Coward () on
I won't stand in anyone's way of someone trying again with NetBSD or OpenBSD or ClosedBSD or AnyOtherBSD, but rest assured the Debian purists will.
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By Sacha Ligthert () on
Personaly I disgust the idea of having the cancer playing with OpenBSD code..
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By bruj0 () bruj0@securityportal-com-ar on http://securityportal.com.ar
Linux on the countrair its smooth, nice man pages. A fscking lot of Documentation explaining how to do it. No just telling you to go RTFM.
And yea it is secure, just not as good as OpenBSD in the Firewall bussiness.
So as you can see i use Linux for normal day to day work and OpenBSD for my firewalls.
When they both get together it will totally ROCK!
bruj0-
By Nobody You'd Know () on
and yet not a line of code
this is laughable
By Anonymous Coward () on
These are the projected stats on Debian GNU/BSD:
1. The userland will be the GNU system. This will not be a BSD OS with Debian package management tools installed, this will be the GNU operating system using a BSD kernel.
2. The kernel will be NetBSD or OpenBSD, with strong talk of a modular kernel system being added so that any BSD kernel can be "snapped in."
3. Debian package management will be included, of course. Whether or not anything will remain of Ports will be undecided. Ports may be eliminated entirely or it may be beefed up to the sophistication of apt and the two systems integrated together. Nobody knows at this point.
4. The BSD filesystem will be used at first, with Ext2 support being a task for later. BSD's libc will be also be used at first. Some people want to port Glibc, others don't.
Check the mailing list archives on lists.debian.org for the code and for all the discussion that's been going on lately.
By syscop () ping1@linuxfreemail.com on mailto:ping1@linuxfreemail.com
people want to hack together a neat hybrid system.
However, most of us use OpenBSD to work and dont think it needs much that Debian has to offer. How bout they all get off there bums and audit the Debian codebase!