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Beta Update - Request for (more) Testing
Contributed by rueda on Tue Aug 08 06:57:01 2017 (GMT)
from the rinse-and-repeat dept.

https://beta.undeadly.org/ has received an update. The most significant changes include:

  • The site has been given a less antiquated "look". (As the topic icons have been eliminated, we are no longer seeking help with those graphics.)
  • The site now uses a moderate amount of semantic HTML5.
  • Several bugs in the HTML fragment validator (used for submissions and comments) have been fixed.
  • To avoid generating invalid HTML, submission content which fails validation is no longer displayed in submission/comment previews.
  • Plain text submissions are converted to HTML in a more useful fashion. (Instead of just converting each EOL to <br>, the converter now generates proper paragraphs and interprets two or more consecutive EOLs as indicating a paragraph break.)

The redevelopment remains a work-in-progress. Many thanks to those who have contributed!

As before, constructive feedback would be appreciated. Of particular interest are reports of bugs in behaviour (for example, in the HTML validator or in authentication) that would preclude the adoption of the current code for the main site.

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  Re: Beta Update - Request for (more) Testing (mod 1/1)
by Anonymous Coward (sthen) on Tue Aug 08 07:44:58 2017 (GMT)
 

There's not much visual separation between articles on the front page, which makes it a little hard to see where one article summary finishes and the next begins, especially when the summary includes a section with grey background or an <hr>.

I miss the voting options a bit, they weren't perfect but did give a way to show agreement without making a mostly-useless post. I see why you might want to get rid of downvoting, changing it to only allow +1 or removing your earlier +1 might do the trick.

Is the comment editor doing anything odd? Mobile Firefox has hanged 3 times while I've been editing this and it's normally rock-solid. (Related to this: it would be nice if the "need more privileges" page allowed you to login and continue with your action :)

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  Re: Beta Update - Request for (more) Testing (mod 0/0)
by brynet (Brynet) on Tue Aug 08 11:26:48 2017 (GMT)
https://brynet.biz.tm/
 

Link to previous article on the beta site, summarizing changes: https://beta.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20170704122507

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  Re: Beta Update - Request for (more) Testing (mod 0/0)
by Tom Van Looy (tvlooy) (tom@ctors.net) on Tue Aug 08 12:15:40 2017 (GMT)
http://twitter.com/tvlooy
 

I'm missing mobile usability. Is this still on the todo list?

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  Re: Beta Update - Request for (more) Testing (mod -1/1)
by Aaron Bieber (qbit) (aaron@bolddaemon.com) on Tue Aug 08 12:18:23 2017 (GMT)
https://deftly.net
 

This is looking good! Excited! What it really needs is a high res MangaRamblo!

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  Re: Beta Update - Request for (more) Testing (mod 1/1)
by Anonymous Coward (2601:186:4403:45dc:75f6:d573:2a05:2304) on Wed Aug 9 00:04:34 2017 (GMT)
 
Looks very good! I use a desktop browser to view the site.

The layout, colors, fonts, etc. are great. All very clean and readable, even to these old eyes.

imo, nothing further needs to be tweaked. :)

Thanks!
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  Re: Beta Update - Request for (more) Testing (mod -1/1)
by fedey (84.47.154.6) on Wed Aug 9 11:31:30 2017 (GMT)
  It would be great to make the site responsive, so it is more adjusted to mobile browsers. RWD has lots of advantages - there is only one code base and divs are rearranged depending on the width of your screen.

Thanks & regards
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  Re: Beta Update - Request for (more) Testing (mod -1/1)
by PIL (209.147.124.187) on Wed Aug 9 13:29:50 2017 (GMT)
  Looks good so far. The new site is much easier to read ; i agree with the other posters who mention making the site mobile friendly. Otherwise, looks great, thanks!
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  Re: Beta Update - Request for (more) Testing (mod 0/0)
by red_state_red (2600:8803:be00:719:fd8b:9f12:c3f1:bef2) on Wed Aug 9 19:36:52 2017 (GMT)
  So far so good. I like it. I've seen other people comment on mobile, and on Safari on iOS it doesn't look great. But Firefox on desktop (as well as Chrome, et al) it looks quite a bit better. I eagerly look forward to the big roll out.
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  Re: Beta Update - Request for (more) Testing (mod 1/1)
by Anonymous Coward (79.124.59.202) on Wed Aug 9 21:29:23 2017 (GMT)
  I kind of like the current non-beta look.
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  Re: Beta Update - Request for (more) Testing (mod 1/1)
by Anonymous Coward (65.19.167.131) on Thu Aug 10 03:01:47 2017 (GMT)
  Interface is much better now. I like the simplicity.
Some points:

1. No clickable <h1> on articles
2. Search feature uses duckduckgo... ehhr. Better not have search feature (nasty javascript).
3. The "credits" section in main page seems to be outdates. The name of Ross Richardson is not cited and the kcgi is also not there.
4. Is it being tested with Tidy? There's no indentation on HTML.
http://www.html-tidy.org/
5. It's listing the IP from users on comments. I find it a shame undeadly is doing this, no need for it.
6. I'll keep my position that less contrast is better for readability, so I'd suggest #eeeeee instead of #ffffff and #333333 instead of #111111 on CSS.
7. Is comment POST disabled on beta? I can't find it

Also, TLS is not working for me on undeadly.org, but working good on beta.undeadly.org
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  Re: Beta Update - Request for (more) Testing (mod 2/2)
by Renaud Allard (renaud) (renaud@allard.it) on Fri Aug 11 21:37:48 2017 (GMT)
  I will be very honest. Apart from the icon on the right hand side, which adds nothing, I don't see how the old version is antiquated, design wise.
Now, maybe it's better to have it in html5 and all modern css stuff. But the old design was really on the top already.
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